{"id":49,"date":"2016-09-23T17:04:02","date_gmt":"2016-09-23T08:04:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mengelberg-fr.kyoto-svp.com\/?page_id=49"},"modified":"2016-09-23T18:23:13","modified_gmt":"2016-09-23T09:23:13","slug":"les-resultats-de-lanalyse-de-lenregistrement-de-mengelberg-beethoven-symphonie-n-5","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/mengelberg-fr.kyoto-svp.com\/?page_id=49","title":{"rendered":"Les r\u00e9sultats de l&#8217;analyse de l&#8217;enregistrement de Mengelberg Beethoven Symphonie n \u00b0 5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><script src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\" async=\"\"><\/script><br \/>\n<script>\/\/ <![CDATA[ (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({ google_ad_client: \"ca-pub-7449767836059688\", enable_page_level_ads: true }); \/\/ ]]><\/script><br \/>\nCette page est les r\u00e9sultats de l&#8217;analyse de l&#8217;enregistrement de Mengelberg Beethoven Symphonie n \u00b0 5.<\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>Teldec 4509-95515-2 enregistre la date dans la pochette du CD a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9crit comme le 4 mai 1937, il est consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme un enregistrement Gramophone des 15 Avril, 1942.<\/p>\n<p>Actuellement, l&#8217;enregistrement de la Beethoven Symphonie n \u00b0 5 de Mengelberg qui sont sur CD est la suivante.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">11 avril 1922 Enregistrement Gramophone (premier mouvement uniquement)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">4 mai 1937 jours d&#8217;enregistrement Gramophone<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">18 avril 1940 jours d&#8217;enregistrement en direct<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">15 avril 1942 Enregistrement Gramophone<\/p>\n<h2>Base de l&#8217;analyse<\/h2>\n<p>Comme r\u00e9f\u00e9rence, j&#8217;utilise la date des Pays-Bas Willem Mengelberg Society.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">NYPO, mardi, 11 avril 1922<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">CGO, dinsdag, 4 mei 1937<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">CGO, jeudi, 18 avril 1940<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">CGO, mercredi, 15 avril 1942<\/p>\n<p>Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 analys\u00e9 le 6 CD suivant.<\/p>\n<h4>11 avril 1922: Enregistrement Gramophone<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Premier mouvement seulement (autre mouvement semble ne pas avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 enregistr\u00e9)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">VN-01842<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-504 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/VN-01842-300x294.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01842\" width=\"300\" height=\"294\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>4 mai 1937: Enregistrement Gramophone<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">VN-01829 \u00a0\u00a0pochette du CD a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9crit que 5 Avril 1937, mais est une erreur d&#8217;\u00e9criture.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-503 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/VN-01829-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01829\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>18 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">PROC-1897<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-502 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/img689-small-300x264.jpg\" alt=\"img689-small\" width=\"300\" height=\"264\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">MR2171<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-501 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/img964-small-300x259.jpg\" alt=\"img964-small\" width=\"300\" height=\"259\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">VN-01812<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-500 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/VN-01812-300x293.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01812\" width=\"300\" height=\"293\" \/><\/p>\n<h4>15 avril 1942: Enregistrement Gramophone<\/h4>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Teldec 4509-95515-2 \u00a0\u00a0pochette du CD a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9crit comme le 4 mai 1937, mais est une erreur d&#8217;\u00e9criture.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-499 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/img687-small-300x264.jpg\" alt=\"img687-small\" width=\"300\" height=\"264\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Observation de Waveform (par le mouvement)<\/h2>\n<h3>Premier mouvement<\/h3>\n<p>VN-01842 11 Avril, 1922 enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-464\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/7f4cb514b68e97b84f1b38dac442c29b.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01842-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671922%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%881114%e6%97%a5%e3%83%8b%e3%83%a5\" width=\"1224\" height=\"189\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01829 4 mai 1937: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-466\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/4882b5be538b7d31bb87fde47e26eaeb.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01829-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671937%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%885%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1223\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>PROC-1897 \u00a0\u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-470\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/cd43b45684e65e8a054c9a3e6ae9ab13.jpg\" alt=\"proc-1897-symphonie-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-01-allegro-con-brio-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1224\" height=\"183\" \/><\/p>\n<p>MR2171 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-476\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/c1302b289835d07f257368f48bbe047d.jpg\" alt=\"mr2171-symphony-no-5-op-67-1st-mov-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1224\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01812 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-481\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/b08b0ba416cc90f86e7c746eabc2da4c.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01812-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1227\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Teldec 4509-95515-2 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a015 avril 1942: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-486\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Teldec-4509-95515-2-Beethoven-Symphony-No.5-In-C-Minor-Op.67-1.Allegro-Con-Brio.jpg\" alt=\"teldec-4509-95515-2-beethoven-symphony-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-1-allegro-con-brio\" width=\"1226\" height=\"187\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Second movement<\/h3>\n<p>VN-01829 4 mai 1937: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-467\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/4e47fd1f1d38d68610c0344aaddf7723.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01829-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671937%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%885%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1222\" height=\"189\" \/><\/p>\n<p>PROC-1897 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-471\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/474d05145b430d20c990e6fe77c6ae52.jpg\" alt=\"proc-1897-symphonie-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-02-andante-con-moto-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1223\" height=\"189\" \/><\/p>\n<p>MR2171 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-477\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/525f75e781dcf22c9a13a9155137784d.jpg\" alt=\"mr2171-symphony-no-5-op-67-2nd-mov-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1225\" height=\"188\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01812 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-482\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/bd9c34b40c5a04725ff96f54aa0516f7.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01812-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1226\" height=\"187\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Teldec 4509-95515-2 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a015 avril 1942: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-487\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Teldec-4509-95515-2-Beethoven-Symphony-No.5-In-C-Minor-Op.67-2.Andante-Con-Moto.jpg\" alt=\"teldec-4509-95515-2-beethoven-symphony-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-2-andante-con-moto\" width=\"1226\" height=\"186\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Third movement<\/h3>\n<p>VN-01829 4 mai 1937: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-468\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/a8df84f3d18b8cc64cb5d3415169976d.png\" alt=\"vn-01829-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671937%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%885%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1224\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>PROC-1897 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-472\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/e0c6c3b1a7c216e7dcf7f864f72d71bd.jpg\" alt=\"proc-1897-symphonie-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-03-scherzo-allegro-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1222\" height=\"186\" \/><\/p>\n<p>MR2171 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-478\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/a6bdd4b4c56c4ec16b99fdb7b8684a41.jpg\" alt=\"mr2171-symphony-no-5-op-67-3rd-mov-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1224\" height=\"183\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01812 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-483\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/d796a332ddb983d6050a42f22efdb25a.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01812-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1224\" height=\"184\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Teldec 4509-95515-2 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a015 avril 1942: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-488\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Teldec-4509-95515-2-Beethoven-Symphony-No.5-In-C-Minor-Op.67-3.Allegro.jpg\" alt=\"teldec-4509-95515-2-beethoven-symphony-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-3-allegro\" width=\"1224\" height=\"188\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>4th movement<\/h3>\n<p>VN-01829 4 mai 1937: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-469\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/6b69ac3bc363a10926264fef0656af58.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01829-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671937%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%885%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1225\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>PROC-1897 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-473\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/cb104eb12d278579bc062ad6a17e3920.jpg\" alt=\"proc-1897-symphonie-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-04-allegro-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1221\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>MR2171 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-479\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/f861dca88118662b21e90c66f81bf015.jpg\" alt=\"mr2171-symphony-no-5-op-67-4th-mov-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5\" width=\"1223\" height=\"188\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01812 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-484\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/4e88ab830473150295cebd80378b1922.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01812-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1225\" height=\"183\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Teldec 4509-95515-2 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a015 avril 1942: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-489\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Teldec-4509-95515-2-Beethoven-Symphony-No.5-In-C-Minor-Op.67-4.Allegro.jpg\" alt=\"teldec-4509-95515-2-beethoven-symphony-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-4-allegro\" width=\"1224\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>R\u00e9sultat de comparaison Waveform<\/h3>\n<p>Les quatre types d&#8217;enregistrement du 11 Avril 1922, 4 mai 1937, le 18 Avril 1940, 15 Avril, 1942 ont \u00e9t\u00e9 confirm\u00e9es pour avoir des caract\u00e9ristiques diff\u00e9rentes dans chaque.<\/p>\n<p>Pour 18 Avril 1940, je comparais 3 CD (PROC-1897, MR2171, VN-01812).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Apparemment, il y a une grande diff\u00e9rence dans l&#8217;amplitude du signal, est en raison du volume d&#8217;enregistrement et de traitement du bruit du CD. Je confirme ces 3 CD sont l&#8217;enregistrement de la m\u00eame performance \u00e0 partir des caract\u00e9ristiques sur la performance (inclinaison ou de temps pour repr\u00e9senter l&#8217;intonation de la forme d&#8217;onde).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Dans PROC-1897, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 inclus, tels que l&#8217;accord entre les mouvements et apr\u00e8s avoir jou\u00e9 les applaudissements.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Le MR2171, la quantit\u00e9 d&#8217;informations qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 enregistr\u00e9es, y compris le bruit, donc tr\u00e8s vive!<\/p>\n<h3>Temps de lecture (Premier mouvement uniquement)<\/h3>\n<p>A titre de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence, pour comparer uniquement les r\u00e9sultats de mesure premier mouvement du temps de lecture.<\/p>\n<p>Depuis le premier mouvement commence par un repos, il est temps a \u00e9t\u00e9 mesur\u00e9e jusqu&#8217;\u00e0 la fin du son du premier son.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">VN-01842 (1922): 6:17<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">VN-01829 (1937): 7:52<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">PROC-1897 (1940): 6:17<br \/>\nMR2171 (1940): 6:16<br \/>\nVN-01812 (1940): 6:17<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Teldec 4509-95515-2 (1942): 7:42<\/p>\n<p>Les donn\u00e9es des Pays-Bas Willem Mengelberg Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 est le suivant.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">NYPO, dinsdag, 11 april, 1922: 6:25<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">CGO, dinsdag, 4 mei, 1937: 8:01<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">CGO, donderdag, 18 april, 1940: 6:37<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">CGO, woensdag, 15 april, 1942: 7:48<\/p>\n<p>Fait int\u00e9ressant, il dispose de 6 minutes et 17 secondes dans l&#8217;enregistrement de la session en direct et 1940 du NYP,<\/p>\n<p>Cependant, dans le studio d&#8217;enregistrement des Concertgebouw il est devenu une performance multipli\u00e9e par le temps que les 7 minute de la seconde moiti\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Je ne sais pas comment peut comprendre cela.<\/p>\n<h3>Impression<\/h3>\n<p>Bien qu&#8217;il existe quatre types, qui a aussi diff\u00e9rente jeu impression.<\/p>\n<p>Ceci est le sentiment et marque l&#8217;impression en une seule phrase, sans crainte de malentendu.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">1922 (NYP) est portamento performance la plus efficace. (Je me sens sexy)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">1937 a une force motrice.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">1940 est la performance la plus dense.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">1942 performance qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 soulign\u00e9 stand-panier est le meilleur (de bonnes sensations mieux)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Individuel par l&#8217;impression est diff\u00e9rente.<\/p>\n<h2>Forme d&#8217;onde (le d\u00e9but du premier mouvement)<\/h2>\n<p>Je forme d&#8217;onde ajout\u00e9 au d\u00e9but du premier mouvement, \u00e0 titre de comparaison plus d\u00e9taill\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p>VN-01842 11 Avril, 1922 enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-465\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/05b0e595069693ecab05621de32f91ad.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01842-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671922%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%881114%e6%97%a5%e3%83%8b%e3%83%a5\" width=\"1224\" height=\"185\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01829 4 mai 1937: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-475\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/138f03e08f1a86ff05e7874347819b49.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01829-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671937%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%885%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1226\" height=\"189\" \/><\/p>\n<p>PROC-1897 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-474\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/4ceee560d40925eb474697534f7510bd.jpg\" alt=\"proc-1897-symphonie-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-01-allegro-con-brio-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5ex\" width=\"1217\" height=\"187\" \/><\/p>\n<p>MR2171 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-480\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/361773732f4d74a1772f25eb84b5f74c.jpg\" alt=\"mr2171-symphony-no-5-op-67-1st-mov-1940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5-ex\" width=\"1225\" height=\"186\" \/><\/p>\n<p>VN-01812 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a018 avril 1940: L&#8217;enregistrement en direct<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-485\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/1c257615d3b220e573b574e71049740a.jpg\" alt=\"vn-01812-%e4%ba%a4%e9%9f%bf%e6%9b%b2%e7%ac%ac5%e7%95%aa%e3%80%8e%e9%81%8b%e5%91%bd%e3%80%8f%e3%83%8f%e7%9f%ad%e8%aa%bf%e4%bd%9c%e5%93%81671940%e5%b9%b44%e6%9c%8818%e6%97%a5%e3%82%b3%e3%83%b3%e3%82%bb\" width=\"1224\" height=\"188\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Teldec 4509-95515-2 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a015 avril 1942: Enregistrement Gramophone<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-490\" src=\"http:\/\/mengelberg.kyoto-svp.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Teldec-4509-95515-2-Beethoven-Symphony-No.5-In-C-Minor-Op.67-1.Allegro-Con-Brio-EX.jpg\" alt=\"teldec-4509-95515-2-beethoven-symphony-no-5-in-c-minor-op-67-1-allegro-con-brio-ex\" width=\"1223\" height=\"186\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Dans la performance live de 1940, comme surprise, il y a une grande fonctionnalit\u00e9.<br \/>\nJ&#8217;ai une forte impression au crescendo de 60 bar \u00e0 78 bar.Perhaps l&#8217;audience ce jour-l\u00e0 \u00e9tait dans la salle de concert du Concertgebouw est que je pense qu&#8217;il est involontairement bu le souffle.<\/p>\n<p>D&#8217;autre part, la performance de 1942, comme appuyer sur un Sew &#8211; Coudre &#8211; Coudre &#8211; Moi, et un son d&#8217;une note juste au cas o\u00f9, il est une performance unique.<\/p>\n<p>A cette \u00e9poque, il ne sort pas la diff\u00e9rence de temps de jeu dans chaque performance.<\/p>\n<p>(Mais il y a une diff\u00e9rence de deux secondes pr\u00e8s de la plus courte et la plus longue)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cette page est les r\u00e9sultats de l&#8217;analyse de l&#8217;enregistrement de Mengelberg Beethoven Symphonie n \u00b0 5. Conclusion Teldec 4509-95515-2 enregistre la date dans la pochette du CD a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9crit comme le 4 mai 1937, il est consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme un enregistrement Gramophone des 15 Avril, 1942. Actuellement, l&#8217;enregistrement de la Beethoven Symphonie n \u00b0 5 de Mengelberg qui sont sur CD est la suivante. 11 avril 1922 Enregistrement Gramophone (premier mouvement uniquement) 4 mai 1937 jours d&#8217;enregistrement Gramophone 18 avril 1940 jours d&#8217;enregistrement en direct 15 avril 1942 Enregistrement Gramophone Base de l&#8217;analyse Comme r\u00e9f\u00e9rence, j&#8217;utilise la date des Pays-Bas Willem Mengelberg Society. 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